Ep24 Rob Z Wentz - Transforming Self-Awareness Into Leadership

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Rob Z Wentz
when it comes down to like the thing that I love to do, it's understanding breakthrough strategies and how to help somebody by creating a climate in an environment that creates a breakthrough for them. And that can mean so many different things in so many different aspects of life.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Hey. Hey.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Welcome to

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Suzanne Taylor-King
The podcasts were dreams, meet, determination and success is just around the corner. I'm your host, Suzanne Taylor King, and I'm here to help you unlock the full potential of your business and your life.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Welcome to Unlock your Way with SDK. Let's unlock your path to success together

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Good morning. Good morning everyone. It's Suzanne Taylor King here with Rob Z Wentz. And I'm really excited for this question he posed to me this morning. Are you being inconsistent with where you're at and what you're doing and where you want to go with your goals?

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Suzanne Taylor-King
He's the coach for you. And I love the fact that you described it with a question. Let's dig into that today.

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Rob Z Wentz
I would love to.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Yeah, it's.

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Rob Z Wentz
Thank you for having me here.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Oh, you're so welcome. You're so welcome. Total transparency. we had incredible rapport when we first connected, immediately understanding each other's journeys, not only with podcasting and community. The online space and the fact that you just got married was really in your pictures were incredible. And it was just really a great connection point for us. And I love, love connecting with entrepreneurs who are passionate about what you do.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
So let's talk a little bit about who you serve and what you actually do with them.

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Rob Z Wentz
I would love to thank you, Suzanne. Here's the wonderful introduction. So as far as who I serve, you know, I love this is something that I had this conversation so many times. It's like, pick a niche, pick the who's the niche, who's the person you're supposed to be working with. I have always seen, like, who am I supposed to be working with is that it was me, the version of me like seven years ago, who's trying to figure out their entrepreneur journey.

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Rob Z Wentz
Right. as far as an individual figuring out my own self leadership. So the self leadership leading into how do I lead a team if I can't lead myself, I can't lead a team. And then how do I become the expert at what I do, the expert in my field? So when I'm working with somebody or working with a team, I'm always just looking for.

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Rob Z Wentz
The essence of there's this desire for more like their they are somewhere in their life right now, but they know they're destined for more in their life or their business. And that could mean many different things. Right? But there's that feeling in that drive. Like, I know I need to get somewhere, I know I need to have this breakthrough, and I can't seem to figure out, like, how do I make this breakthrough happen?

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Rob Z Wentz
Right? So when it comes down to like the thing that I love to do, it's understanding breakthrough strategies and how to help somebody by creating a climate in an environment that creates a breakthrough for them. And that can mean so many different things in so many different aspects of life. But if I can help you find that breakthrough, that's what I want to do.

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Rob Z Wentz
And that's what I would love to do, because I love doing that for myself, cause it just gives you so much freedom in your life.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
And, well.

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Rob Z Wentz
Boiling it down to one person is impossible because I just love helping people do that.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
It is, and, you know, we could have a whole hour long discussion on, you know, tarnish or not tarnish. Right. but what I want to pull out of what?

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Rob Z Wentz
How to say it. Is it niche or niche?

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Also, I know which reminds me of itch. So I always say niche. You know, I took French in high school, so that I know where I go. Okay. Not that it matters. what I want to pull out is the fact that self-awareness. You had to be aware for of your own journey in order to break that down.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
What does it look like in order to help other people? Say a little bit about that?

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Rob Z Wentz
I've always felt like I was way too self-aware, right? So I've always felt growing up like, could I just not be as aware as I am of myself? It would be great. It would be great to be delusional.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
You can turn off or something.

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Rob Z Wentz
Gosh, I would just love to be totally unaware of me. It would just be. It would be such a freedom sometimes. Although everything's a gift and a curse, right? So throughout my life that really seemed like a curse. But I realized as I get older what a gift it is to be so aware, because it can be very painful, but also as you start to own it.

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Rob Z Wentz
So it's like I have no choice but to work on myself. I have no choice. But I have to get better because I can't stand who I am right now. You know, that sort of thing as I was growing up, like, that was kind of like, I can't I don't like being like this. So I need to figure me out.

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Rob Z Wentz
And so the more I figure me out, the better I am that it's me compared to me. Seven years ago. World of difference. but also it's interesting, right? Because I feel like it's like reverse narcissism in the sense that, like, you I'm not artist. I was never narcissistic in the sense of, like, I had a overly bombastic personality.

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Rob Z Wentz
It was the opposite of like, it was over critical. Overly critical, overly judgmental of myself. But it was all about me, right? So understanding I don't have to be so concentrated on me. And the more I focus on other people and and help other people and think about them and how I can serve them, I don't have to worry about me as much because it's not about me.

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Rob Z Wentz
And so, speaking of what your question was, is kind of that, like, how do we get past ourselves and how do we turn our life into a life of service? So I have two things that I like to say that I do. I serve people and I prepare to serve people. Those are the two things I do. So if I'm serving somebody, if I'm with somebody, then I'm serving them.

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Rob Z Wentz
And if I'm not with anybody, then I should be spending my time preparing to serve them. And that looks like bettering myself, becoming a better human being. and learning, growing, connecting. Right. And as I'm doing those things, that's going to prepare me to be able to serve people better. But if I'm stuck in my head all day long, then I'm not helping anybody.

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Rob Z Wentz
Nobody's benefiting from that.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Yeah. well, I love this so much because before we hit live today, we were talking a little bit about me creating from a space of what I would want to buy versus creating what I think my niche or ideal client would spend money on. Yeah. And it's such a different place of creativity and ideas, and it's just a different space to be in when you're in that type of service.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
And I applaud this about you because you, you really created a community that people you would want to be a part of instead of, how can I sell this to 100,000 people and retire? it wasn't created from that space, which was intriguing to me. But let's go back to the self-awareness piece. You said you always had it.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
You developed it. You became more aware of it and not from that critical, you know, rob your bad space, but from the how can I learn from this, grow and use that to serve other people?

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Rob Z Wentz
When you know what I think when you're so stuck in yourself.

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Rob Z Wentz
You just. I couldn't stand it. I just couldn't stand it always being concerned about me. It was like would just drive me nuts. So how did I have to create past that? How did I, what did I have to do is I, I just I didn't know what else to do, I didn't know who am I supposed to be learning from?

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Rob Z Wentz
How am I supposed to figure this thing out? Because I didn't have anybody like in my life who, could necessarily speak to that. And I didn't even know how to say it. Right.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Right.

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Rob Z Wentz
So I'm just going to take you on a little journey, I guess, is what we'll do. Okay. I spent 20 years in radio broadcasting. Right? So most of my life was spent in radio broadcasting, talking to nobody and everybody all at once. I couldn't see anybody. Nobody's in front of me. But I'm just talking into a microphone.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
You do have a great voice for radio, I thank you.

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Rob Z Wentz
Yeah. And people say I have a great face also for radio. I've heard that before.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
That though, by the way.

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Rob Z Wentz
I never gets old. It's such an easy 1 or 2. So it's a softball layup. yeah. So and radio I this was always my struggle was like there was a version of me inside of me that I didn't know how to get out. Right. So I did not know how to get this person out of me. And it was like the person that I am now is this person that was like in here that I didn't know how to do.

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Rob Z Wentz
And so for many years, it's like I was faking it throughout my life of like I was trying to be what I felt like I was supposed to be, instead of just being myself. And I'm still learning how to just be myself. but my ex-wife at one point said during my, while I was in radio, she's like, you know, when you talk to people on the phone, when you're on the radio, you sound like Rob.

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Rob Z Wentz
But when you're just talking on the radio, you turn on like this radio voice and you start talking like this. It's called puking in radio. That's called puking. so, I was like, this puka. And then I was like, oh, wow, that's interesting. So I'd listen back to myself and I'd hear, well, yeah, when I talk to people, I'm just talking to them.

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Rob Z Wentz
But when I'm just, it's just me. I put on this show.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Interesting.

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Rob Z Wentz
Yeah. And so. And I'm actually kind of like having a revelation right now. So as I, as I would do this in my own personal life, when I focused on other people, I was more of myself. When I was stuck just with me, I was like putting on this character of who I thought I was supposed to be, right?

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Rob Z Wentz
So as halfway through my radio career, I, like clicked and I was like, oh, I can just be me. And then as I started being me, people actually liked me and like, everything started to get better. My audience grew, my position grew, my financial situation grew, everything started getting better, and I started to really excel at what I was doing.

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Rob Z Wentz
And I was like, oh, that's really cool. I can just be me. And people seem to like that. And so I'm like, what a what a shocker. and so then it started. So that correlates with like, well, so the more I get outside of myself and the more I start to just serve people and focus on them and build those relationships, then people, just people like that, they naturally like that.

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Rob Z Wentz
But when I'm stuck in just my nonsense, nobody likes that and nobody wants to be around me, including myself. and I think so many people could probably relate to that situation of being incongruent with, this person that's in you that, like you, it's talking to you all the time that that that thing can grow. And he's talking to you all the time, like, you should be doing this, but you're doing this.

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Rob Z Wentz
Paul says it in the Bible. He says, I, I want to do the things that I know are right, but I don't do them, and I don't want to do the things that are wrong, but I keep doing them. And this is like I struggle with humanity. This is our struggle.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
And it has been forever. You know.

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Rob Z Wentz
Whenever it's been the struggle.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
I'm a big fan of stoic philosophy. And what you're describing is, you know, I call myself a eudaimonia ologist because of exactly what we're talking about.

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Rob Z Wentz
Are you demonologist? What you mean?

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Suzanne Taylor-King
So your demon is what you explained as that inner best version of you that wants to get out? And what prevents it from getting out is your demon, that negative voice in your head that's saying you shouldn't be doing this? Yeah. You're not good enough. You're not smart enough, not good looking, and you know you're too old. Oh, yeah, and those two.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
It's the age old battle of good and evil in your own head. Yeah. And what I love so much about eudaimonia, which, the philosophers say that that is the ultimate goal of being human. To fulfill your potential, to become that best version of yourself and take that one step further, to have those habits and things that make you that best version of yourself.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Be what you love to do. Well, that sounds a whole heck of a lot like positive psychology and fulfilling your passion and your purpose and, all those things I'm so passionate about because I had to do that work on myself, which is exactly what you're saying.

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Rob Z Wentz
And you have to do it. You don't. You don't have to.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Yeah, well, you don't have to.

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Rob Z Wentz
Your life's going to suck if you don't, though. It's going to be really hard. And and you're going to run into a wall at some point in time, right? Yeah. And you hear this so often people run into this wall of like, I thought I was doing the right thing. I always think of Jim Carrey. He always says that quote, I hope everybody always gets.

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Rob Z Wentz
I hope everybody gets everything they've always wanted in their life to realize that's not what they actually. Yeah, they're needed. That wasn't the answer. I think about that. It's like, yeah, I think we always chase after what, we've been trained to think that we want or need, and that's not actually it. So I always go to and I ask people this question all the time.

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Rob Z Wentz
One of my favorite questions to ask people, what did you want to be whenever you were ten years old? Because at ten years old, you were old enough to know what you really just naturally loved, and you were young enough that the world hadn't come in and forced you into some sort of box. Yeah, and I love that space, because for me, I wanted to be a radio DJ.

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Rob Z Wentz
I did it, and a professional wrestler also did it for six years. Yeah. When I was 19. Yeah. It was, oh my gosh, you it was that something? I have some photos. That's about it.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
I think I'm going to need to see those now.

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Rob Z Wentz
Yeah, I could probably dig them up. What was, what did you want to do when you were ten years old?

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Suzanne Taylor-King
I wanted to be a wildlife photographer and go to Africa and photograph animals.

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Rob Z Wentz
Okay. Did you ever do it in any way?

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Oh, and and so much so that I had I. I stopped taking pictures. I, I literally stopped until my son was born and we're talking. He wasn't born. I was 41. So that's a long time not taking pictures. I would be in pictures, but I wouldn't physically take pictures.

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Rob Z Wentz
Wait. Hold on. So you. Because you knew you weren't going to chase that you stopped taking photos until.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
I was told I couldn't. I was told I couldn't, you know, it was one of those childhood beliefs and photography was very expensive when I was ten years old, because your, old, so there was buying the film, developing the film. There was no, you know, digital stuff, you know, now pictures all day long on your phone and they're great.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
It wasn't like that then. So I was told, no, no, you know, that's too expensive for us to do. You can't do that. And that just made me kind of rebel against taking pictures. Oh, well, if I can't do it, I can't do it. I'm not going to do it at all. Type of thinking. And I didn't discover that until I was like 41.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
My son was born and I'm taking all kinds of pictures of him. And my husband says to me, this is the first time I've ever seen you take pictures. And I was like, oh, I wonder where that's from? And just a little self-exploration led to it, because that's what I wanted to do for a living, and I couldn't do it.

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Rob Z Wentz
And so it was never a conscious thing. It was unconscious interest.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Totally unconscious, but, you know, a little self-discovery, self-exploration, which, you know, I'm a huge fan of. You have to know yourself in order to put that best version of yourself out there. So who is that best version of me? It's somebody who doesn't let subconscious things hold them back anymore, that's for sure. And it's only through exploring those things that you can actually pursue that, that I don't think you ever get to the ultimate best version of yourself.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
But I think it's a daily work in progress. How about you?

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Rob Z Wentz
Yeah. I don't think you ever I don't think we're I don't know, maybe we.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Well, there is no perfect.

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Rob Z Wentz
People, right? Yeah. Yeah. There's always. Yeah. The the, flagpole. What do they say? The goalpost always moves.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Yes.

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Rob Z Wentz
Yeah. Which is good. but how about me? With what? What was that?

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Suzanne Taylor-King
What about. How about you with the the idea of, you know, being willing to do that self exploration, being willing to push the goalpost a little bit to continually, you know, 1% better each day. How does that translate into helping your clients do exactly the same thing?

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Rob Z Wentz
Oh, man. You know.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Let me rephrase a little bit. Oh.

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Rob Z Wentz
I had something, but okay, okay.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Go ahead. Go ahead and then raise.

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Rob Z Wentz
I was just going to say, whenever I was, I, I left radio seven years ago and started the digital marketing company. and I knew that I had to, like, create something on my own. And then I had the digital marketing company. Then I got certified in coaching. But as I noticed, like, something was really missing in my life, like something was missing and I really had to go do this deep work, prayer and meditation and just, just just sitting with myself contemplating what is missing here.

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Rob Z Wentz
And it was broadcasting. It was like this thing that when I was ten years old, I did a pretend radio show in my bedroom, like, I if YouTube would have been around, I would have been doing that right now. But it wasn't because we're old, right? I was also YouTube didn't exist yet. I shouldn't say we. I should have said me, I was I'm old.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
It's okay. I'm. I think I have you beat, but yeah, if there was no digital film when I was ten years old.

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Rob Z Wentz
Yeah. Right. Yeah. You'd be in Africa right now taking pictures and probably. So, I really noticed, like, wow, I'm not doing the thing that I love doing since I was ten years old. I love doing this thing. So I was like, I need to restart the podcast, I have to do it. But then I was like, I can't just do it.

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Rob Z Wentz
I can't just restarted. I had done it for five years, while I was in radio, but I didn't really have a purpose. I'm like, this podcast needs to have a purpose. So what I created was the unstuck movement. You've been a guest on there. and it's like these stories of breakthrough, these stories of getting unstuck because I felt very stuck at various points in my life.

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Rob Z Wentz
And the breakthrough that I found was everything. And what I uncovered from that was like, well, this is also I need to take this into my coaching because I need to help people find the thing. Going back to this ten year old question, going back to this vision of like, what is the vision of your life? It's already in you.

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Rob Z Wentz
You don't need to search outside of it. You may have been searching outside of you your whole life for it. You don't need to. It's already in you. What is it and how do we bring it out? And it's. And that might be like you said, about photography in Africa, but there could be essence, an essence of that thing that you've carried over into what you do now.

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Rob Z Wentz
So I, I, one of the big things I love to help people realize is like, okay, there's an essence of this me that I need to bring out into the world. I need to bring this out, and I need to uncover this. And this goes for life, somebody's personal life, but also for their business model. Also because there could be something in their business that is going to transform everything.

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Rob Z Wentz
It's going to cause a massive breakthrough. And I'm just helping them see what that thing is, help them realize what that thing is. And if I can bring that to a client and see them have a breakthrough like that. I've been working with a chiropractor. And when I'm working with him, it's so cool because he is so unlike any other chiropractor I've ever been around in.

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Rob Z Wentz
The fact that he'll do 60 minute sessions with people. Chiropractors don't do that. It's in out, go to a chiropractor, you're in there for five minutes and they're like, get the heck out of here, and they're bringing somebody else. And he's down. He gives you stretches to do at home. He encourages you, he coaches you while he's a chiropractor for you also.

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Rob Z Wentz
And he loves to teach. So now we're working on him, teaching him, going out and doing seminars and doing webinars and educating people because that's what he loves to do. So yeah, he's a great chiropractor, but he's also a coach and a teacher and helping him see that and helping him see that and step into that is so exciting to watch.

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Rob Z Wentz
So I just that's that's how you do that. I love that.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Beautiful. I, I think there's really a magical thing there. I call it a talent stack. You know, that's part of his talent stack is is the teaching. Yeah. And by seeing that, you can really bring that out for him, which is going to do what increases satisfaction, his joy for what he does and his level of service.

00:22:42:02 - 00:22:59:20
Rob Z Wentz
And it's going to and then his business is going to skyrocket. Because. Yes, because he's in his zone of genius. I love the term zone of genius. There's this zone we have that we're naturally just like acclimated towards. And if we it's our strengths, right. And if we feed those and foster those man the sky's the limit.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Truly, truly I, I can feel when it's happening. I don't I don't know about you, but when it's happening for me, I can feel it. I know that the information I'm either providing or talking about, or the question that's coming next, is divinely, intuitively guided. Yeah, that's one thing I learned in a book or in a course. It's me.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
It's it's it's part of me. Because of the work I've done on myself.

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Rob Z Wentz
Yeah, exactly. And it's happening. So right now it's happening for me in this conversation because this is where I am supposed to be. And I know that now I start to buzz. So I'm buzzing right now. I can feel it feels like I drank too much coffee is what it feels like. Well, I love working in, but not too much like it's when you drink too much.

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Rob Z Wentz
Then I start, my stomach starts to get a little upset and silly.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
I love that scene. I think that's it. my my bucket of coffee. well, I love one. It's it's rare to, I'm just going to say it, it's rare to have a guy, a man who is that in-tune with the mind body connection. this is what stood out about you, and, I'm not realizing it until now is the fact that you are so connected.

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Suzanne Taylor-King
Mind, body, spirit, purpose type person. that is magnetizing. That is so attractive. Totally not hitting on you right now by the I this.

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Rob Z Wentz
I don't give you.

00:24:50:16 - 00:25:26:07
Suzanne Taylor-King
This is why people want to talk to you. It's why people want to talk to me. It's like this I'm working on a webinar right now called the Charisma Code. And what actually goes into having that energizing presence? And it's because you're connected to yourself. You know yourself, you know your purpose. You're living your purpose. You're doing the thing that you help other people do.

00:25:26:09 - 00:25:32:22
Rob Z Wentz
Yeah. Thank you, I receive that. Thank you so much. So nice of you to say you're welcome.

00:25:33:00 - 00:26:05:06
Suzanne Taylor-King
yeah, that just kind of came to me like, oh, that's why. That's why I felt connected to you. Maybe that's why you felt connected to me and why we hit it off and why, you know, there's there's something there in the future, right? Relationships are so intriguing to me in the online space right now, you can tell that you're connected to somebody like that.

00:26:06:02 - 00:26:24:11
Rob Z Wentz
And it is really fascinating, right? Because, we've never met in person. Yeah. You don't have to actually meet in person. That's the thing I find so exciting about, zoom. Yeah, I, I can't really tell over like, if you, if you're messaging somebody on Facebook, like, my wife and I were watching catfish last night, which is such a hilariously stupid show.

00:26:24:11 - 00:26:43:19
Rob Z Wentz
It's so dumb. And I feel bad for the people on there. Half of me feels like it's fake and half me is like, if it's fake, they're really good actors, I can't tell. but anyways, the point is that, I could never like, fall in love with somebody over Facebook Messenger or something, and these people will fall in love over text.

00:26:44:01 - 00:27:03:01
Rob Z Wentz
I'm just like, how does this happen? But, but when you meet somebody online, you actually talk to them. I don't have to ever meet the person in person, which would be nice, but you can have just as much. And I tell people this all the time, you can have just as much of a bond and connection with somebody virtually than you can in person.

00:27:03:03 - 00:27:09:08
Rob Z Wentz
I feel that way. Some people feel that's not possible. but I think it's totally possible.

00:27:09:10 - 00:27:09:22
Suzanne Taylor-King
I do too.

00:27:09:23 - 00:27:15:04
Rob Z Wentz
It would be better. It will increase in person, but it can be very strong.

00:27:15:06 - 00:27:44:09
Suzanne Taylor-King
Yeah, yeah. And I think when I expanded, you know, to working with clients virtually in this way because my coaching practice was all in person when I started and I think I had my first couple clients on Skype, you know, before zoom was a thing. And it felt weird to me. It was definitely something you had to get used to.

00:27:44:11 - 00:28:11:20
Suzanne Taylor-King
plus, the connection wasn't as good as zoom, and, you know, the technology just wasn't as good. But it allowed me to have my first international client, and it was a woman from South Africa. And we immediately had this incredible connection. And that opened up a world of possibility for me as a coach. as a community leader.

00:28:11:20 - 00:28:22:13
Suzanne Taylor-King
Oh, I don't I don't have to stay in my little 100 mile bubble. I can I can expand. And that was really exciting back then.

00:28:22:15 - 00:28:42:20
Rob Z Wentz
That is for me, it's everything because I, I don't work with anybody in my area right now. Everybody's outside of my area. The closest person is like 40 minutes away. but everybody else is out different states all over the place, you know what I mean. So it and the pandemic as you know there was a gift and a curse and everything.

00:28:42:20 - 00:29:07:00
Rob Z Wentz
What a gift it was in the pandemic that this technology became such a forefront for everybody. And everybody was forced to learn how to use it. Right. Because even if, say, back safe, zoom was really safe. We had great quality, high speed internet, which we did in 2019. Right. people were still so uncomfortable being on video calls that it was that's a that's a big barrier to overcome.

00:29:07:00 - 00:29:10:20
Rob Z Wentz
But the pandemic broke that barrier down completely. Yeah.

00:29:10:22 - 00:29:28:12
Suzanne Taylor-King
Yeah. I, I always find it interesting. my husband, you know, works remotely for a very large company. And every time I walk into his office and he's in a meeting, not a single person is on camera.

00:29:28:14 - 00:29:29:14
Rob Z Wentz
All right.

00:29:29:16 - 00:29:55:12
Suzanne Taylor-King
And then my question is always, how do you know the people that you work with? And he's like, it doesn't matter. I'm like, oh, I'm like personally offended. Like, oh my God, it matters. It matters so much. Yeah. And it's just not part of their company culture to encourage that, which I find fascinating.

00:29:55:14 - 00:30:00:06
Rob Z Wentz
it doesn't seem like good call, a good culture, but I could be wrong.

00:30:00:08 - 00:30:12:18
Suzanne Taylor-King
I could be I could be wrong, too. But, it's it's fascinating to me that, you know, you could work with a team of people, remotely and not ever see them.

00:30:12:20 - 00:30:18:15
Rob Z Wentz
Yeah. You would need to see at least every once in a while to get to know the person.

00:30:18:17 - 00:30:19:23
Suzanne Taylor-King
Right. I get.

00:30:20:01 - 00:30:41:10
Rob Z Wentz
Past that. Like, if I once I get to know somebody, like some of the people that I do coaching with, we don't turn our cameras on. And it's actually relieving because I don't have to stare at a screen so I can relax my eyes and I feel like, oh, also, once you build that relationship, somebody just talking, there's I sometimes have bigger breakthroughs in just chatting.

00:30:41:14 - 00:30:55:05
Rob Z Wentz
I agree, and I don't know, this is maybe I'm on the spectrum a little bit. I don't know, but whenever I'm having ideas, I don't look at people, like, whenever I'm talking to you, if I'm having an idea, like, look away, I don't look directly at somebody whenever I'm. Yeah, having a thought.

00:30:55:08 - 00:31:25:14
Suzanne Taylor-King
So I think that's why I like, WhatsApp so much with my clients. the ability to send voice messages back and forth so I can hear their voice so I can share ideas on, on the fly as they come to me. Yeah. I notice when you turn off the other senses that that intuitive message for the person comes through so much more powerfully when you turn off the lights in the camera.

00:31:25:14 - 00:31:36:04
Suzanne Taylor-King
And look, if I actually close my eyes sometimes when I'm sending a message just to block out all the other distractions, it's interesting.

00:31:36:04 - 00:31:57:13
Rob Z Wentz
When you close your eyes, you do. I can like, I think, better, you know, there's a podcaster, Lex Friedman. He's pretty famous. and when he when he's talking, he'll, you know, like, say something with his eyes closed, and I'm like, that's what I should just start doing that, too, because I feel like he has these these amazing thoughts because his eyes are closed.

00:31:57:14 - 00:32:11:16
Suzanne Taylor-King
like, you know how when you say, When you're really resonating with something, somebody says your eyes closed? Yeah, immediately. Just natural reaction.

00:32:11:18 - 00:32:17:21
Rob Z Wentz
You know, when you take a really good bite of something. Yeah. Eyes closed. Like. Well, it's so good. Like it's so good. I got close, right?

00:32:17:22 - 00:32:20:14
Suzanne Taylor-King
And I just thought of a cheeseburger, but.

00:32:20:16 - 00:32:25:11
Rob Z Wentz
I think of, like, Okay. a peanut butter cup.

00:32:25:13 - 00:32:29:03
Suzanne Taylor-King
Oh, yeah. I'm not a candy person. Interesting. I.

00:32:29:05 - 00:32:45:09
Rob Z Wentz
I've actually been fasting candy for a month, and it's been really good, although I think, like, I'm, detoxing sugar because my my wife said my breath is not the best, which is another great thing for zoom that nobody can smell my breath right now, I guess.

00:32:45:11 - 00:33:21:21
Suzanne Taylor-King
Yeah, well, it's very true. And I will pull a little wisdom from my 20 year career as a dental hygienist. I fully believe that's why I don't care for sugar. I never wanted a cavity. and knock on wood, I've never had one. Wow. And when your body is detoxing from sugar, you get a weird bacteria change in your digestive system, which actually makes your body more basic.

00:33:21:21 - 00:33:39:02
Suzanne Taylor-King
So you're leaving the acidity inflammation stage and otherwise known as ketosis, is causing your breath to not be so great. And you might have a little extra body odor during that time as well.

00:33:39:04 - 00:33:46:01
Rob Z Wentz
Really? Oh, I haven't noticed the body odor. I should maybe I should take a whiff.

00:33:46:03 - 00:33:52:18
Suzanne Taylor-King
actually, luckily we can't do that here on zoom. That's not that feature is not coming anytime soon.

00:33:53:00 - 00:34:04:17
Rob Z Wentz
The smell of vision. When the smell of vision coming into play. Remember? Smell of vision. Like we're never married with children. They had an episode like where they you could, like, get something at a local store. And like, when Al Bundy did something, you'd smell the thing.

00:34:04:21 - 00:34:05:14
Suzanne Taylor-King
Oh.

00:34:05:16 - 00:34:07:20
Rob Z Wentz
And that just popped in my head for whatever.

00:34:07:20 - 00:34:18:16
Suzanne Taylor-King
Someday. Someday, though, there will be that aromatherapy kind of feature on TVs or or or whatever, and I'm not looking forward to it because.

00:34:18:18 - 00:34:19:23
Rob Z Wentz
I always thought, it.

00:34:19:23 - 00:34:20:10
Suzanne Taylor-King
Smells.

00:34:20:15 - 00:34:35:10
Rob Z Wentz
Yeah. Why? It's not a good idea. Yeah. I always thought cars should have, like, built in walkie talkies so you can talk to the people who are next to you in the car. And I brought that idea up once. People are like, that's a terrible idea. I would not want to talk to the car next to me. I'm like,

00:34:35:12 - 00:34:50:00
Suzanne Taylor-King
A lifelong lifelong dream to have a digital screen either on the back window or on the top of the car, that I could type messages to the other drivers.

00:34:50:04 - 00:34:53:02
Rob Z Wentz
Oh, typing message that seems dangerous while driving, but.

00:34:53:02 - 00:34:53:10
Suzanne Taylor-King
I guess we're.

00:34:53:11 - 00:34:53:23
Rob Z Wentz
Testing while.

00:34:53:23 - 00:35:01:02
Suzanne Taylor-King
Driving. But you know, that idea came to me before, you know, our modern technology, you know?

00:35:01:02 - 00:35:20:00
Rob Z Wentz
So yeah, but communication with people next to you, I feel like it would, it would you would relate to humans more in cars next to you. Because that's where we get road rage from. Everybody is your enemy because you're they can drive and you can, and it would break down that barrier. But then again, you'd probably hear a lot of things you don't want to hear.

00:35:20:02 - 00:35:37:19
Suzanne Taylor-King
Absolutely, absolutely. It's reminding me of Jerry Seinfeld's show for a while. Comedian. cars, cars, things not. There's all that here is really good. Good. Yeah, yeah. All right, let's wrap this up, my friend. Okay. Because God knows where we'll end up.

00:35:38:00 - 00:35:40:04
Rob Z Wentz
I don't know where it's going. Yeah.

00:35:40:06 - 00:35:45:16
Suzanne Taylor-King
how can our listeners get in touch with you? Where can they find you?

00:35:45:18 - 00:36:00:02
Rob Z Wentz
The best place to do it is my website lead Impact transform.com. And if you're on Facebook, just Rob Z Wentz on Facebook or LinkedIn. You can DM me there if you want to just say hi also.

00:36:00:03 - 00:36:30:14
Suzanne Taylor-King
Well I will have all your contact information in the show notes. in in the comments. on all the platforms that we're streaming live, Facebook, LinkedIn and YouTube. And thank you so much for having this incredible conversation from you. Demonology to sugar to bad breath to body odor to cars. And, I just look forward to more conversations with you and keep up the good work you're putting out into the world.

00:36:30:16 - 00:36:34:02
Rob Z Wentz
Thank you. Same to you, Suzanne. Thank you so much. This was wonderful.

00:36:34:03 - 00:36:35:00
Suzanne Taylor-King
You're welcome.

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