Ep28 Gordon D Melville - How to stop judging others and start embracing your uniqueness

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Speaker 2
Well, in the moment, I thought I was doing something good for my family so that I wasn't that millstone around their neck. And. And all I was really doing was transferring my sadness and my frustration and my that depression on to the people around me.

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Speaker 1
Hey, hey. Welcome to a podcast where dreams meet. Determination and success is just around the corner. I'm your host, Suzanne Taylor King. And I'm here to help you unlock the full potential of your business and your life. Welcome to Unlock Your Way with SDK. Let's unlock your path to success together.

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Speaker 1
Allo allo Allo, everyone. We are here for another episode of Unlock Your Way with STK, and it's been a minute since I was live. for those of you who don't know, recovering from some surgery and it took a little longer than I expected, and I've been off of social media for about four weeks, and I'm so excited for the first conversation back to be with my dear friend, coach, mentor, and cat.

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Speaker 1
born in Melville. Welcome my friend.

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Speaker 2
Thank you so much. It's so good to be here with you.

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Speaker 1
I just, I, I knew, you know, being back live is always fun, and I would make sure that it was with you, because we've been trying to do this for a little while, and we haven't been able to sync up our calendars with the time difference and everything. So this is going to be great.

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Speaker 2
This will be awesome. I'm glad you're back. And, feeling better?

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Speaker 1
Yes. yeah. It's always surprising when you have to recover from something. It takes longer than you think. You know, it's always like, Really? Am I that old? Then it's going to take this little, So today I really want to dive into, all that you do, and you you do a lot. So your mindset mentor for, men's professional basketball team, soon to be expanding, those to many more teams.

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Speaker 1
I feel that's coming.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
And you're a coach and a speaker, and you do some incredible work in the realm of IQ, too,

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Speaker 1
let's talk about EQ today, and then we'll dive into the work that you do.

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Speaker 2
Sounds like a plan.

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Speaker 1
Okay. All right, so I just listened to one of your talk from something else that you do called Mo Mondays. And please mention that. And I also, and I learned some things about you, and how you got to, you know, where you are now and what you're doing and more importantly, how you changed your mindset and the way you were thinking and being in the world from being very down and very dark to really coming to this place of knowing yourself so much better.

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Speaker 1
Tell us a little bit about that.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. That's, when you take an Energizer bunny and you experience some of that when you take an Energizer bunny that's used to go, go go go go go go all the time and stop them from doing that. They can get dark in a hurry. And and as a guy and as somebody that's a performance based human. I have been for a lot of my life and certainly was then and not knowing where to reach out.

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Speaker 2
And I think that's where the the catalyst for that and for where that's taken me has brought me, because at the time, I didn't know who to reach out to alleviate that. And I didn't want to, I didn't think I could out myself. Right. I was in the financial world then. I had been looking after millions of dollars for people, and they wouldn't have been giving their money to a suicidal guy.

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Speaker 2
So I couldn't tell anybody that that's where my brain was at. And so you sort of get into a space where I felt I was talking about this with somebody else yesterday, and you get in a space where you feel like you're doing everybody a favor, right? You're you're right. Because I've always thought one small, selfish thing you can do.

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Speaker 2
And why don't you just reach out and. Well, in the moment, I thought I was doing something good for my family so that I wasn't that millstone around their neck. And. And all I was really doing was transferring my sadness and my frustration and my that depression on to the people around me. And so, you know, you know, without grand a huge amount of detail.

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Speaker 2
Pop saved me that day on the floor in the bathroom. And what it did was give me purpose. And the talk you're talking about. That was a moment I didn't own my Mondays. And that was one of the eight cities that I did my talk in before me ever owned one. And, that was in Aurora, and I, I, I remember, there's been some forward movement since I gave that talk.

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Speaker 2
There's been some awareness since then, and, around understanding where that what my purpose is and why I'm here. And so, you know what my value in the grand scope is. And you and I have talked about this a bunch in other places and on our own, but understanding what our worth and our value is, is going to generate a mindset one way or another.

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Speaker 2
And so if my brain if I think my working value is less than or not enough or not lovable, then the mindset that's created of that is skewed because it's trying to overcome or compensate for, a lack that's not really there. And so, you know what? I was laying on the floor that day and I heard Papa say to me, this is not the legacy.

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Speaker 2
I want you to leave. I've got a job for you to do. I've got a mission for you to do, and I could get someone else to do it. But I want you to do it, so please don't do what you're doing. And it. It left me with a piece that told me two major things. One is, I know exactly what my purpose is.

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Speaker 2
And I think that's even that's morphed over the years, since then, because I think when and I'm a spiritual human, when Jesus was here, he said when they tried to get him to what's the most important commandment? And he said, love, Papa. And so I called God Papa because of my relationship with him. But love, love, papa, and then love each other the way you love yourself.

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Speaker 2
And then he put Mike down. Well, he didn't say judge people. He didn't say we're doing this or that. He said, love each other. So I think all of our purpose for everybody.

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Speaker 1
Yeah.

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Speaker 2
To love each other. Period. Right now you're a different human than me. So how that shows up and how you love on the world is going to be completely different than how I do it, because I'm a different kind of being. But the but the base purpose for everybody is, is just, excuse me. It's just to love each other.

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Speaker 2
And so that was a huge awareness that came that day. The other one that I think is at least as big or bigger awareness was that the creator of everything, 8 billion people on the planet, and he was in the bathroom when I needed him to be there. Yeah. And if that doesn't tell me what my worth in my value is, nothing ever will.

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Speaker 2
And he says, we have infinite value for no other reason, that we are the nothing to do with what we think or what we've done or good, bad or otherwise. He accepts and loves us very much, likes us a lot, just the way we are. Yeah. And so, you know that that whole concept around loving on people and accepting them where they are, literally revolution sized my thought process because it changed the way I viewed people.

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Speaker 2
And if we keep viewing people as less then right, and you've heard me say this before, but the word stigma somebody used yesterday, I mean, I hate that word and I apologize and I'm like, no, no, it's okay, it's okay. But it's a sanitized word that we use so we don't have to admit what we're really doing. Right.

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Speaker 2
And what we're really doing is just being judgmental pricks. That's what we're doing. Or we're saying I'm better than them because I don't deal with that. Well, you've got your all, all do your own shit to deal with, but because you don't deal with that doesn't make you any better or worse than anybody else on the planet. And so, you know, if we can take that because Stingley gets used about lots of things right?

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Speaker 2
Wait. Yeah. It's like there's so many things. Hey, you stop the stigma. No, no, no. Pull the word stigma out and put the word judgment in anywhere you find it. And it's way more honest. Way more accurate. Right? Stop judging people because of stuff that they can't control. Stuff that now, even on choices, they make bad choices. Great.

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Speaker 2
We all make bad choices. There's nobody perfect, right? So, you know, being able to that whole stimulus pause respond deal. Right. Doug Powers in the pause. The powers in you be able to go, no, no, wait, wait wait wait wait. Is that what their heart is? Is that what my purpose is in their life? Because that whole concept around legacy is not an end of life thing.

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Speaker 2
We think of it as an end of life thing, but it's not legacy, just what we've poured into people. Right? Well, we do that every day without realizing it, right? Somebody cuts us off and we give them a Burger King got all animated, and we're angry because we think we've been wronged somehow. If if they could speak at our funeral, we'd never see them again.

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Speaker 2
But they speak at our funeral. That's the legacy we left in them was a negative.

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Speaker 1
That's why it's so much more fun to go exactly right.

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Speaker 2
Right.

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Speaker 1
That's the. That leaves an angry, frustrated person questioning their own anger. Like, right. Oh, like. Oh, and I, somehow I, I think it's funny to react that way to an angry, you know, gesture or whatever, but yeah, you you brought up an important point that I think bears repeating and re emphasizing because loving other people, caring about other people, being in service of other people, whether you're getting paid for it or not, is just a way of being for certain people.

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Speaker 1
Well. The requirement, at least as far as I'm concerned, is that you have to feel that way about yourself first. You have to care about yourself. You have to love yourself. And I noticed with, a lot of the entrepreneurs that I've worked with over the years that that is the biggest struggle because of either comparison ideas or, you know, some influencer you want to be like or some coach that you learn from that says you have to do it this way and you don't want to do it this way, and you feel like an imposter, a fraud, like you're not successful enough to help other people.

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Speaker 1
And tell us a little bit about what that looks like, because your program, your boxed inside out program really sealed a couple deals for me around that idea of imposter syndrome versus me showing up in service. Who am I being feeling?

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Speaker 2
Absolutely.

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Speaker 1
I'll talk a little bit about that for us.

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Speaker 2
I asked a few people a lot right now. and I have for a little bit. It's become kind of our thing, right? Who you be? And now that's Grammer's barfed, right?

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Speaker 1
But no, I love it. I love it because it's different.

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Speaker 2
It is. And it's. I'm trying to do a pattern with them. Right? I'm trying to get them to think outside my James dog. I love him to death. I don't know, but yeah, outside that, that concept around who were being with we, we get stuck in a loop hamster wheel of what we do, what we do, what we do, what we do, what we do right.

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Speaker 2
And we forget about who were being. And so, yeah, I think if we focus on who were being then and then we do, the doing becomes an extension of who were being which. Yeah. Have alignment and flow. Right. Yeah. But if we don't know who are being and that's why I say I'm trying to interrupt their thought pattern a little bit to get them to go.

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Speaker 2
What did he just ask me? Right. Because most people can't answer that question. Most people can't tell me who they're being because they don't know. Right? Yeah. No idea. And so and I you know, I do think it's an easy question when we're at parties or we're meeting new people, hey, what do you do. Right? Or how are you is a polite thing, right?

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Speaker 2
We don't really care. in general, some of us do. But most people, when they say, how are you? It's just a polite way to greet people. It's not matter of fact, if you answer them, they're get pissed off that. Oh, crap, I'm sorry, I yeah. Right, right right, right. But, but that's the house part. And then they went, so what do you do?

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Speaker 2
Is kind of a it's an easier question than saying who are you being.

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Speaker 2
Because they don't know. And that means they have to be transparent vulnerable. And they don't want to do that either. So you know well I'm, I'm I'm, I'm an architect or I'm an insurance guy or I'm a culture. I'm a it doesn't matter what it is. The point is we conflate what we do with who we are.

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Speaker 1
Yes.

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Speaker 2
Right. We we get our identity and wrongly pull our identity out of what we do. And what we do has nothing to do with who we are.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, right. It's such a different question. You know, I've had numerous different careers and so have you. Well, but I believe I've always been being the same type of person. The same the same feeling, caring, service minded, care about other people, right person. Right. And I think when challenged to be better, it's always on my list. Right?

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Speaker 1
I know it for you too. Let's let's have today be 1% better than yesterday. Let's have my performance be 1% better, my food be better, my. And and it's this constant trying to be better do better. That actually can get a little overwhelming if you really start tracking like I do. You know I'm tracking sleep I'm tracking water, I'm tracking steps.

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Speaker 1
and if every day has to be improved upon, it implies that there's something that's not good enough. Right. Mindset wise.

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Speaker 2
Right. But I think it's, it's right. I don't think it I think it's an awareness. So. Right. It's not, one of our good friends, Doctor Oliver Reed, said to me, Gordon, you can't become who you already are.

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Speaker 1
Yeah.

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Speaker 2
Right. We are already perfect in every way. We're already who we're supposed to be. What we end up doing is it's not 1% better. It's 1% closer, more aware of who I really, truly am.

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Speaker 2
And then being able to put that out for the world. Right. Being able to be were uncovering that awareness of we perceive it as better, we perceive it as more efficient or stronger or more productive or whatever. But it's I think it's an awareness that we're having on our own of who we're supposed to be. Right?

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Speaker 2
Because we're even we're trying to find out who that is. We don't know what's through our whole life. We don't know. Well, okay, what am I, who am I? Who am I supposed to be, right? How am I supposed to show up in the world? And so when I ask people, who are you? Who you be? That's what kind of I'm asking, how are you showing up in the world?

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Speaker 2
How are you showing people your heart? How are you loving on the people that are in your life? Because yeah, we get again, we're going to get we get sidelined with, like you say, tracking steps, tracking water, track all the things that we and you and I are both performance based human. So that's how we're we learn to be.

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Speaker 2
Hey, I'm not I if I can't track it and I want to get better, I have to be able to measure it.

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Speaker 1
And numbers don't lie. Got to measure it. Yeah. Right.

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Speaker 2
Right. But but incremental improvement and awareness around who were being will allow us. To be to be aware of who we're supposed to be. Yeah. Like we're not becoming. Well we are becoming I guess. But we're becoming aware. We're not becoming a different human. Yeah. Well, how are.

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Speaker 1
We? Are we remembering who we're supposed to be?

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Speaker 2
Absolutely.

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Speaker 1
I mean, yeah, in this

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Speaker 1
in this world of, you know, we're we're in the online space. But even if you're not in the online space for your business,

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Speaker 1
there's still movies and TV channels and unlimited choices of types of peanut butter. And there's so many, like, do we really need 40 different kinds of peanut butter? It drives me crazy, but there's so many distractions, right, right, right. And it's constant. And I, I remember reading a statistic that said we're capable of handling our brains about 10,000 pieces of information a day.

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Speaker 1
You know, from our senses, sight, sound, smells, everything we look at and bring in to ourselves every day. Yeah, but we unconsciously are bombarded by over 60,000 pieces of information every day. If you are scrolling or if you're reading email or watching the news or flipping channels. Even then, that distraction. I just had this conversation earlier this morning that that distraction is what keeps you from mindfulness.

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Speaker 1
It's what keeps you from remembering who you're supposed to be in this world.

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Speaker 2
Absolutely.

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Speaker 1
So thank you to Patricia Lindner for that conversation this morning. It was amazing. what do you recommend for your clients to really get back to that mindfulness place of being for themselves? Let's start with client zero first. Right. for themselves, what are some of the tools or activities that we could do to really get in that space?

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Speaker 2
It's a that's a great question. It's, unplug. right. something that you would have experienced. So you had when you got sick, that was an and an emergency thing. That was an unexpected thing, right? Right. You would have had plans later that day. Later the next day, either through the following weeks, you had shows to do and clients to follow up and all that.

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Speaker 2
Right that we look at from a day to day basis and go, why I have to do this? They're counting on me. But what happened when you weren't there?

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Speaker 1
Nothing. Nothing.

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Speaker 2
Did they go away? Did the world implode? No no, no. So so we put all this emphasis on well I got, I got I.

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Speaker 1
I got it, I got, I.

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Speaker 2
Got it, I got it right. Unplanned. Right. I tell people all the time I'll tell clients literally unplug this is up and it's empowering. I find it as an empowering thing because it means it's something I can control. I don't have to have 60,000 pieces bombard me every day. If I spend less time online or less time watching TV.

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Speaker 2
I don't even have cable. We haven't for years and years and years now. I own a whole bunch of movies and we have Netflix and Disney Plus. But. But I'm not watching news. I'm not watching, right? So I pick and choose where I'm going to plug that in, because there is there is a time to do that. There is a time to sit with the family on the couch and watch movies and have pizza and popcorn and whatever that.

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Speaker 2
That's productive because it's bonding. But yeah, right. But being able to control what you allow yourself to be exposed to. So taking that another step further, we we have a conscious mind, unconscious mind, right? We have a conscious mind that has a gatekeeper. So if I said to you, hey, something I say to you, something that's completely wrong or against your, your, beliefs or your morals or whatever, your conscious mind picks that up and goes, no, that's not right and doesn't let it in.

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Speaker 2
But your unconscious mind does not have a gatekeeper. And so we're talking right now. But if the radio's playing behind you we're focused here. But the anything that's happening on that radio in a positive news, negative news, all the crap and what is being poured into our subconscious.

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Speaker 1
Yes.

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Speaker 2
Without us realizing it's being poured in because there's no gatekeeper to stop it. And then we wonder why we get off the call and go, I want Burger King. I don't know why I want burger. Well, it was a part of do you what? I mean, it was put it it was plant. That seed was planted. So even paying attention to what we falling asleep in front of a TV while stuff is playing, you know, all that stuff is going in because your subconscious mind is not stopping it.

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Speaker 2
Right. And then we feel overwhelmed and we. Right. Which is a funny word, I, I've been talking about that recently with people. And I'm like, how do we go from whatever normal is to overwhelm? There's no such thing as whelmed. I'm just whelmed. Or we go right to overwhelmed, right? I'm already past.

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Speaker 1
We should change it to Overstimulate.

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Speaker 2
Absolutely. For sure. Too much stuff going on, but we can control that. Stop and do some. Spend five minutes. Spend three minutes meditating. Spend where you're and if you don't know how to, one of the two of us will help you with that. But point you. You know, I had this on my desk, this morning is my religious right, but but finding something that you can meditate with, that you can focus.

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Speaker 2
That's positive. That's good for you. That's right. I do a lot of, vision work. Right. So what does my life look like when I get where I want it to be? And and to be able to when I'm meditating, that gives me something to focus on. So my brain's not all over the place yet, but I'm looking.

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Speaker 2
I'm walking through my life in that, in that moment and going, what? What kind of a house do I live in? What do the doorknobs look like? What does the kitchen? What does a tile on the backsplash like is as detailed as I can get? I'll bake cookies in that oven. And what does that smell like in that?

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Speaker 2
So there's an emotional, but it gives me that, that ability to be able to dial right in and focus. Right. Yeah. And that stimulation has a scattered if we can pull I.

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Speaker 1
I think that's so many people that I meet when and and more so in person. But but I think it happens in the online space as well. I was at a networking event yesterday, and I noticed there's probably about 30 people, you know, on the zoom screen, and 3 or 4 of them were obviously doing something else.

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Speaker 1
Right? I mean, obviously looking over here, obviously typing one was actually blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like on the phone. And I thought, dear Lord.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
This many people are incapable of coming to a networking event and giving it their full attention, looking at the camera, for God's sakes, not looking at Gordon right now, I'm looking at the green dot and pretending it's Gordon, because that's what looks like I'm looking at you right on zoom. Like you have to know the box that you're in and so many people don't.

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Speaker 1
Right. So multitasking, trying to pay attention, you're never going to connect authentically with other people without eye contact. And I notice this in person two, that when you meet people in person and you are in eye contact or like, I want to know you, I want to look into your soul and want and need you, meet you a lot of people.

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Speaker 1
It makes really uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2
Absolutely. That's a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant exercise I do with clients. Yes. Where I say to them, find somebody that you love or care about your spouse or a significant other, or and and block out everything else. No sound, no go to a place where you're not going to get interrupted and start an alarm for just two minutes and 30 minutes on time.

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Speaker 1
Trinity.

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Speaker 2
Was there anything? Two minutes is right. Within seconds they're crying because they're like, well, I, I know right now just I can do that for an hour, hour and a half. We can go. But we we practice that over a long period of time. If I catch your eye across the room, right. And we joke about it, that you're like, hey, stop looking at my soul.

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Speaker 2
Right? I don't I just don't look away. And she's like that when it's such a bonding thing as being stoked to look into everything is in, especially for women. Like guys don't connect that same way. We eye contact for sure, but women will tell you more with their eyes than they ever do with their mouths. But we're not paying attention to that, right?

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Speaker 2
I probably have told you before I do this thing where I'll put my hand over a woman's nose in her mouth and just look at her eyes, and and I've done this with people that women that I don't know that are just mad. And and I show me a picture of you from ten years ago or from 20 years ago.

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Speaker 2
And they do. And I put my hand over their nose and mouth and I'm like, okay. Just looking in their eyes. There's an inch there, there's frustration or there's fear or there's yeah. And they're like, how the hell do you know that? And well, it's right there. It it's right there. But we're not paid attention to that. We don't.

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Speaker 2
And I think that comes back to who were being it all gets routed there. Because if we're being who we're meant to be, then we give a shit about people. yeah. multitask it. It's a misnomer because what you're doing is half asking it on everything. You may get lots. Do I look at all the things I got done?

00:27:25:10 - 00:27:46:14
Speaker 2
No, no, you got kind of marginally done all of those things. If you really focused on one of those things, you're probably done it better and faster. Right? But we I take this into another space with virtually with men. But I think we all do it to your point. We do this thing where when I'm at work, I lament that I'm not at home, and when I'm at home, I look at that.

00:27:46:14 - 00:27:54:02
Speaker 2
I'm not at work and so I'm in either place, right? And there's a guy, my wife of all. You're not here. I'm right.

00:27:54:02 - 00:27:55:01
Speaker 1
Union. It feels.

00:27:55:02 - 00:28:10:19
Speaker 2
Great. Yeah, but she says you're not here. Well, yeah. Right. Because that's the vibration I'm giving off when I'm like, okay, you know what? Wait. I got to make sure I follow up with that guy, and I got to send those three emails. I got my body sitting here, but my brain is not here. And we do that to each other and wonder why.

00:28:10:20 - 00:28:16:22
Speaker 2
So those people on that zoom, it's like, if you're going to show up, if you're going to take me here.

00:28:17:00 - 00:28:24:17
Speaker 1
Right. Especially one if you want connection for roles and business.

00:28:24:19 - 00:28:25:08
Speaker 2
Right.

00:28:25:08 - 00:28:27:20
Speaker 1
Oh my goodness. How can you.

00:28:27:22 - 00:28:54:05
Speaker 2
Be present in the moment? Most of this content most of us are doing, it's called the present. like it's a gift to be right here, right now. The rest of our day is gone. We can't do anything about anything that's happened up until right now. And we're not promised. Not just not tomorrow, not later today. That means this moment, right here is the only time we really have.

00:28:54:07 - 00:29:13:18
Speaker 2
So can I be present? Why here? Can I give that gift to myself and to whoever I'm talking to? There's nothing else going on. You had stuff going on earlier. I had stuff going on earlier. We both have stuff going on later. But right here, right now, there's nothing in my life except Suzanne. There's nothing happening except you.

00:29:13:20 - 00:29:19:12
Speaker 2
And. And when we do that, you're right. That connection is way, way, way stronger.

00:29:19:14 - 00:29:33:01
Speaker 1
And you're. Let's talk about that do you thing. Now, we met each other and we very quickly, became connected,

00:29:33:03 - 00:29:38:13
Speaker 2
Like we do spiritually connected. Right. We've never met live.

00:29:38:15 - 00:29:39:09
Speaker 1
No.

00:29:39:10 - 00:29:40:21
Speaker 2
And sadly.

00:29:40:23 - 00:30:22:05
Speaker 1
I, I feel like you're a soul brother to me. Like you are this warm and comforting, motivational, inspirational force in my life. And when we get to do that for other people, well, it's an incredible gift. But that would have never happened, if we weren't able to be fully present with each other. I don't care whether it's a two minute WhatsApp message.

00:30:22:07 - 00:30:54:08
Speaker 1
that's like, I love your voice and you like hearing my voice messages. 1 or 2 minute voice message where I'm not doing anything else except talking to Gordon. and I'm not saying you're the only one I do that with, but the people that I have real connection with, that's the Suzanne that they get. And I know you are the same way.

00:30:54:10 - 00:31:27:09
Speaker 1
I how do we get that across to more people in a in a genuine way? I remember a couple months ago, I reached out to someone I feel very, very close to. I feel very, I love what he's doing in the world. I love his journey to get to where he is now. And I hadn't heard from him in a while, and I.

00:31:27:10 - 00:31:45:22
Speaker 1
I sent a voice message on LinkedIn and immediately he sent a note back that said, please remove me from your marketing messages. Well.

00:31:46:00 - 00:32:17:10
Speaker 1
I well on the verge of crying. Marketing messages, marketing messages. How is. It's been a long time. I'm wondering what is going on and how are you? How's the family and how's your group going? I would love to catch up sometime soon. How is that a marketing message? And that goes right back to what we were talking earlier about distraction.

00:32:17:11 - 00:32:37:08
Speaker 2
It absolutely does. Well, and you know what? Marketing has become in some ways, and some people sadly have used it as a manipulation. Right. So someone I haven't talked to in a long time, I reach out to you and they think, oh, they're into a multi-level marketing thing, or they're into something else where they're you. What? I mean, they're saying hi because they want to connect.

00:32:37:10 - 00:32:39:18
Speaker 1
Or they want to start that conversation.

00:32:39:23 - 00:32:41:23
Speaker 2
Right. an ulterior motive for.

00:32:42:01 - 00:32:46:20
Speaker 1
This going this year or any of those other league questions.

00:32:46:22 - 00:32:54:05
Speaker 2
Absolutely. I think, and you and I have talked about that before, but I think it comes for me, it comes back to somebody showing me their heart.

00:32:55:04 - 00:33:13:22
Speaker 2
Knowing what their heart is. The other part of that is that your journey is for you, their journeys for them and you can't control right. We try and control things around us and control is an illusion outside of self. What I think and what I do or the only thing I can control, I can influence, but I can't actually control anything else.

00:33:13:22 - 00:33:26:16
Speaker 2
And so, you know, did you put that message out genuinely being you? I would say yes, because that's how I know who I know you to be. But they receive that and you're not responsible for how they receive that.

00:33:26:16 - 00:33:27:04
Speaker 1
True.

00:33:27:10 - 00:33:45:08
Speaker 2
Right. And what they're telling you is this is where I am on my journey. So I put that through again. The stimulus pause respond. You and when I'm pausing in that space and I get a message like that, I'm like, all right, what do I know? Their heart is towards me. Are they normally nasty and what? No. Great.

00:33:45:08 - 00:34:03:01
Speaker 2
Then you know what? It has nothing to do with me. That's something that's going on in their life. I'm not going to. So for agreements, right? One of them is don't take anything personally. It's not they're not being yucky to me to be mean, to me. There's something going on in their life that has nothing to do with me.

00:34:03:03 - 00:34:26:00
Speaker 2
Right? And if I'm thinking about people in terms of that's why it's so important for me to watch and find out what their heart is. What who are they being? Because once I know that I can, I'm evaluating that pause thing. When I hear something that's incongruent with who I believe they are and who they've been to me, then that I'm stopping and going, okay, wait, wait, wait, that has nothing to do with me.

00:34:26:00 - 00:34:39:01
Speaker 2
That's not who they are to me. So clearly there's something going on in their life. And to not take that personally and go, you know what? What they've done is chosen not to be part of my community. And that's okay. Right?

00:34:39:01 - 00:34:40:10
Speaker 1
And it is okay.

00:34:40:12 - 00:34:42:15
Speaker 2
It is a it's hard.

00:34:42:17 - 00:35:28:10
Speaker 1
Be it, you know, because there's an, couple influencers out there who teach this method of authentic connection, and they teach you to reach out to friends and make new connections and actually act like you care, act like their friend to get them engaged in a conversation when really it's a robot doing it. And I think so many people are doing this in authentic marketing that it has soured things for people who want genuine connection.

00:35:28:12 - 00:36:06:01
Speaker 1
I'm not in the online space to have 10,000 friends, to be as close to 10,000 people as I am to you, but I'm there for connection and meaning and community, and you know, being of service to those clients that I serve and then helping them meet clients. And I think I, I just think the way you do things, the way you have surrounded yourself with the right people, the way your growth has been slow and steady and you're you're very focused.

00:36:06:03 - 00:36:32:05
Speaker 1
which in the online space is a huge compliment. You don't change what you do. It's always the same. It's very consistent. And how did you get at that confidence level with what you're doing? And, you know, the EQ for men. That's brave of you to take that on. Now, did you get to that space for yourself?

00:36:32:07 - 00:36:39:18
Speaker 2
I think some of it. And you'll find this out when you turn 30. as often as I get and as I've gotten as I've.

00:36:39:23 - 00:36:41:06
Speaker 1
Been number two. Yeah.

00:36:41:11 - 00:36:53:14
Speaker 2
But as I get older, what I'm finding is at some point you go, you know what? I don't give a rat's ass, I really don't. Yeah, right. If you find that to be great a share of, each.

00:36:53:15 - 00:36:54:14
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:36:54:16 - 00:37:16:21
Speaker 2
If you connect with me. Wonderful. If you don't, that's okay. I'm not everybody's cup of tea, and I'm okay with that, right? Yeah. I come to a place where I'm going to. Are people going to not want to continue the journey with me at the level I want to do it? Yes. And that's okay. I can love on them and if but they're choosing to step away, I don't have to ask them to.

00:37:16:23 - 00:37:28:00
Speaker 2
They jack off because they don't want to be. Whether it's convicted because they go, oh crap, I gave up. I didn't keep pushing or it doesn't matter what it, how they view it.

00:37:28:02 - 00:37:28:10
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:37:28:16 - 00:37:44:06
Speaker 2
Once I got to a point where I was like, you know what? I'm going to be me. And if you like that, wonderful. And if you don't like that, wonderful that. That's great. It doesn't impact me one way or the other when I get negative comments on my shows. You know, the first time that happened, Christine called me and said, hey, there's a negative comment.

00:37:44:06 - 00:37:59:11
Speaker 2
You want me to delete it or you want to respond to them? And I'm like, no, no, I'm going to respond to them. And I was like, yes, yes. And she's like, why aren't you happy? I said, well, they told me I hadn't arrived until I had haters. Now officially I have somebody that's not happy with me. I've arrived.

00:37:59:13 - 00:38:20:21
Speaker 2
but she said, what are you going to say? And I'm going to say thank you for the feedback. I really I appreciate the engagement. Make it a great day. And she goes, oh yeah, you can say that. That's fine. Right. She's worried it's going to. Right. But but once you get to a place where and and focusing so hard on who I am, who I'm being, I'm going to show up a certain way.

00:38:21:01 - 00:38:38:19
Speaker 2
And if you like that, great. If you don't like that, great. I'm okay with that. And I think that's where there's a linchpin in there, because we're afraid we're going to be alone. If I be right, we we talk about it and it brings us back. And some of the other things you talked about today, everybody wants to be unique.

00:38:38:21 - 00:38:59:06
Speaker 2
I got to be unique. I got to stand out by you. That's unique. Nobody else can do that. You do you better than anybody else. Right. But we have this. We have this neurosis around that that says, well, you know, I know we do have moments, right? We have these Superman things. We put our hands on our heads and we go, hey, I want to be unabashedly, unapologetically me.

00:38:59:06 - 00:39:05:06
Speaker 2
And if they like it, great. And if they don't like it great and then somebody we love or respect or care about.

00:39:05:08 - 00:39:05:19
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:39:05:21 - 00:39:20:19
Speaker 2
Challenges it. And we go. And instead of standing there and taking it, we turtle and we put our mask back on because we go, no, no, no, they're not going to love me if they find out I have foibles and warts and no, I'm not perfect. None of us are. Get over yourself.

00:39:20:19 - 00:39:49:03
Speaker 1
So well, isn't that one of the, main human fears is to be ostracized from the pack or the family or the tribe, you know, and take that a step further. We're in some incredible communities together. We're in my community. We're in clay community. I'm in your box inside out community. Like so many communities, different groups of people.

00:39:49:05 - 00:40:02:13
Speaker 1
And the fear for most is that if I truly let my freak flag fly and, truly myself here. Right?

00:40:02:18 - 00:40:04:00
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:40:04:02 - 00:40:07:23
Speaker 1
Well, there's some people that are going to like it.

00:40:08:01 - 00:40:18:09
Speaker 2
I don't care. They're not. Probably they weren't meant to be part of your tribe, and that's okay. Right? Right. The weird thing is this with you let your. That's hilarious.

00:40:18:11 - 00:40:19:20
Speaker 1
It's hard to say why.

00:40:19:20 - 00:40:43:06
Speaker 2
That's. Yeah, that alliteration I do, if you do that authentically, some people are going to leave it. Some people are going to be attracted to the fact that you're being authentically you. Yeah. So you're we're we're so interdependent. We're never you're going to attract new people that love the fact that you're being you. Right? Like, I wear shorts and sandals all year.

00:40:43:12 - 00:41:03:14
Speaker 2
And some people go, you're out of your mind at -40. And some people go, the good on you. You know, you're being a hardy Canadian guy and, but I don't care. It doesn't make any difference to me. I get, yeah, from the pole. Some people love the beard. Some people hate the beard. I don't care. Right. When I shaved my head, I got to get it cut again.

00:41:03:16 - 00:41:19:21
Speaker 2
when I shaved it on the sides, I had a relative. And I won't say who it is because I don't want to throw them under the bus. you know, I love my mother in law, but anyway, so she said, for me, and I love her, she's wonderful. But she said to me, when I first cut it, she put her hands, you little tiny little lady.

00:41:19:21 - 00:41:35:09
Speaker 2
And she put her hands on my face and she goes, gawd, I hate your hair. And her. Well, then it's a good thing I didn't do it for you then, isn't it? I did it for me. I didn't do it for you. I've conformed for 50 years. I'm done. I yeah, we me. And if you like it, great.

00:41:35:09 - 00:42:00:07
Speaker 2
And if you don't like it. No woman. Don't look at my head, I don't care. Yeah, right. And it should be able to stand in that and show up that way. day after day after day after day, with a focus on how do I love these people? I'm paying attention that awareness around my legacy. Right. What am I pouring out into these people at the grocery store, at the bank, or in the road or, in the groups we're in?

00:42:00:07 - 00:42:21:01
Speaker 2
Right. How do my showing up, what kind of an experience are they having talking to me? And I want it on my gravestone that says, I always knew he loved me. Partly because that's the Papa side, right? He's always loved me. I always know he loves me, but I want experiences with me when somebody we may not agree, we may not get along 100%.

00:42:21:03 - 00:42:29:23
Speaker 2
We may not. But but at the end of the conversation, they know without a shadow of a doubt, that gawd gives a shit about me as a human being.

00:42:30:05 - 00:42:30:16
Speaker 1
Yes.

00:42:30:19 - 00:42:50:15
Speaker 2
Aside from everything else, he cares about me as a human and and loves me because I think we we conflate especially guys, we conflate love with sex and and so when I say to my guy friends, I love you, when I first started to do that years ago, they're like, do we need to have a conversation? I'm like, no, no, I love my wife and I love women.

00:42:50:15 - 00:43:11:14
Speaker 2
But no, but and there's nothing wrong otherwise. But that's not who I am. And so being able to tell them I love them to hug them and show that affection, I. How often do we find situations where we talk to somebody? we have an interaction. We we mean to reach out to them and we don't. Their name comes to mind and we don't reach out.

00:43:11:16 - 00:43:15:04
Speaker 2
And then we find out something's happened or they've left the planet.

00:43:15:06 - 00:43:42:12
Speaker 1
Oh, it just so happened a couple months ago with a dear mentor of mine who taught me NLP. he was 83 and lived in his own apartment, reasonably healthy. through the 60s and the 70s. He was a trainer to Tupperware salespeople. Mary, they knew all these big network marketing companies from back in the day. Very famous.

00:43:42:14 - 00:44:08:15
Speaker 1
Yeah. And we became friends at one of his workshops. I stumbled into, you know, his intro to NLP workshop. And he walked over to me out of 30 people and he said, I've never seen anybody take to this like you. And he's like, how do you know how to do this stuff? And they said, oh, I've been a dental hygienist for 20 years, practicing with a lot of people, building connection, building rapport, blah, blah, blah.

00:44:08:16 - 00:44:32:20
Speaker 1
And by the end we were fast friends. Well, flash forward, you know, 15 years and I still would drive out to his place in PA and have lunch with him every couple months. And, I had Covid in March and I couldn't go. And I said, I'll, I'll come next week.

00:44:32:22 - 00:44:33:20
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:44:33:22 - 00:45:07:06
Speaker 1
And he passed away. and it was the most upsetting thing for me. Yeah. And I thought, well, at least I'll be able to go to the funeral. I'll, I'll be clear to be able to go. And his children did not have a service. Well, because of their kind of disconnected relationship with him after he got divorced in the 70s.

00:45:07:08 - 00:45:08:09
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:45:08:11 - 00:45:38:04
Speaker 1
And I thought, I'm going to get his students together and and we're going to celebrate him. And it it felt like the right thing to do, to have closure and to and I think so many times we get that gut instinct to reach out to someone, and we don't do it alone. Too busy or, oh, I'm working right now.

00:45:38:04 - 00:45:41:13
Speaker 1
I'll do it later. And then you don't write right.

00:45:41:15 - 00:45:43:10
Speaker 2
And being in the moment.

00:45:43:12 - 00:45:46:21
Speaker 1
Yes. It only takes a text message, you know.

00:45:46:23 - 00:45:47:17
Speaker 2
Second.

00:45:47:19 - 00:45:48:17
Speaker 1
Yes.

00:45:48:19 - 00:46:05:08
Speaker 2
Right. Yeah. It was someone specifically comes to your mind. There's a reason they came to your mind. I mean, you haven't talked to you in a while, you and I, what I'm learning. And I learned the hard way. Just like you. I'm like you know what? I. It doesn't have to be long. I'll send them a thing right on the spot, no matter what's going on.

00:46:05:10 - 00:46:29:05
Speaker 2
Hey, you know what? I don't know what's going on for you right now. I love you. Big hugs, you know? Reach out. Let's connect it takes three seconds. It's nothing. But you have no idea on the other end of that. Yeah. What? How that's being received on the other side. Because maybe you're. That name came to your mind because the person your that came to your mind is struggling in the moment and needs, from right here.

00:46:29:05 - 00:46:36:02
Speaker 2
Right. I've had I can't tell you how many messages back from people that say, how did you know I needed to hear that today?

00:46:36:02 - 00:46:38:14
Speaker 1
Yeah, you've done it right.

00:46:38:14 - 00:46:49:00
Speaker 2
And it and it's. But we you're right. We get the whole distraction thing. Well, I'll do it later. I'll do it at the end of it. No no no no no no. Because I'll forget people laugh at me about my journey.

00:46:49:02 - 00:47:20:06
Speaker 1
Or who am I to get intuition about someone else and actually take action on it? I've had many people say that to me. Well, that trust. One of the things that, boxed inside out, really sealed in for me was trusting my own gut instincts, intuition, whatever you want to call a divine spiritual information. download. I don't care what you call.

00:47:20:06 - 00:47:45:16
Speaker 1
It's all the same thing. It helped me trust when I hear or feel that message, write it down. Take action on it. Do something because you're lucky that you're aware of it and that you felt it and you heard it. so thank you for that. Thank you for that internal trust compass.

00:47:45:18 - 00:48:04:08
Speaker 2
Let me know what you over so many other people in my life. And I've said that to you. You've blown me away, multiple times on the same day. you know, but it because there's. Oh, they say only 3% of the population does any kind of personal development. And we wonder why the world's messed up. But anyway.

00:48:04:10 - 00:48:09:06
Speaker 2
But even of those 3% that are actually engaged in the, in that concepts.

00:48:09:23 - 00:48:32:21
Speaker 2
Very few of them, 1% of 1% actually do anything right with the information. Right? So somebody that reads a lot but doesn't do anything with the information might as well be illiterate because the information is going in and they're not doing anything with it. Now. They could be planting seeds to do something with it later. That could be.

00:48:32:23 - 00:48:56:13
Speaker 2
But but somebody that or somebody that can read and doesn't is on the same level as an illiterate. Right? Like, so being able to take the information and do something with it. Knowledge is not power. Applied knowledge is power. Yeah, right. And so being able to take it and you do you, you, you not only learn the stuff, you take the information and you go, okay, so how do I apply that?

00:48:56:13 - 00:49:04:17
Speaker 2
And the next thing I know I'm getting an email or a thing from you that goes, hey, I'm doing this now. I'm like, Holy crap. Like she. But I remember culture.

00:49:04:20 - 00:49:34:12
Speaker 1
Laugh because my clients say the same thing. when I used to have my book club, which I'm really excited, is going to be coming back with, Bernie Brown's, newest book, Atlas of the heart, which is all about the human emotional experience. I think it'll be so beneficial for entrepreneurs. But when I used to do my book club, it was always a business or marketing or some sort of business growth book, right?

00:49:34:15 - 00:50:04:02
Speaker 1
And we would read the book in a month and we would meet once and we would talk about it. What was your big takeaway? What action are you going to take? And then I would produce, with some help of I and the way I summarize a book, an action plan for entrepreneurs reading this book, and I was the last one I did was Key Person of Influence by Dan Risley.

00:50:04:02 - 00:50:36:14
Speaker 1
Great book. Right. I live by that book. Yep. And I made an action plan for my clients and the people that were participating in the book club, and every single person was like, oh my God, you took that book and gave me a number one, do this. Number two, do this right. And if you're not going to do that when you read, write, I don't know what you're reading for.

00:50:36:19 - 00:50:44:23
Speaker 2
Right. Well, to take that to another step, you can write the plan down. Do you execute the plan. Do you do what you'd like. You and I one.

00:50:45:01 - 00:50:55:06
Speaker 1
Thing from each book that I read that you've read light years ahead of other people, just pick one thing from each.

00:50:55:06 - 00:51:25:19
Speaker 2
Book. Right. Well I remember a conversation with you where we were talking about fees. And that's something coaches struggle with. Huge. Because they're like, okay, when you're paying me for my time, my information, my 30 years of experience, my what I've paid, the reimbursing me like and they struggle to come up with a number. And and you I like myself we write, we struggle to come up with a number and, and I had said to you you had to I forget what the numbers were now, but you had said this is what I charge now.

00:51:25:19 - 00:51:37:06
Speaker 2
And I was a great you should charge this. And it was like ten times the amount of money. And you went, okay. And that's what I'm saying. Well, I got an email that day that you said to all your people, hey, this is the new fee structure. I'm like.

00:51:37:08 - 00:51:37:17
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:51:37:20 - 00:51:47:05
Speaker 2
Yeah, that's awesome. It because it's not. People say the road to hell is paved with good intention. Like it's the good intention that's the problem.

00:51:47:19 - 00:52:06:13
Speaker 2
I have the good intention. But then do something with it. Don't just let it. The problem is we didn't do anything with the good intention. We did not. We got that message that download. Hey Suzanne struggling today or even maybe the the that's not even just Suzanne's name pops in my brain. I know I'm doing my stop doing my stuff.

00:52:06:13 - 00:52:26:11
Speaker 2
Do I stop Suzanne okay. I don't know where that come from. I don't know why, but for some reason it's there, right? And to say, who am I to. Well, I don't know why, but for some reason it's been put into my mind. So I've been chosen to be able to reach out to her for some reason. She needs to hear from God for whatever reason.

00:52:26:11 - 00:52:43:02
Speaker 2
Maybe it's the same message she's hearing from somebody else, but for some reason, she needs to hear something from me and enter to trust that what I put in, is what you and it's not. Or how I, you know, I'm not laboring about it. I'm thinking, you know what? What would I say to her? I'm telling her I love her.

00:52:43:02 - 00:52:58:22
Speaker 2
I'm telling her, hey, I'm big hugs. Hey, I don't know what's going on, but I'm here for you if you need me and pump that out. Is that what she needs to hear? I don't know, but I'm trusting. Yeah, whatever. Put your name on my mind will put the right words in my mouth or in my thumbs to text to you.

00:52:59:00 - 00:53:27:10
Speaker 2
That are going to be what you need to hear in the moment. And oddly enough, when I trust that way. Right. And and I focus on again, I'm plugged in to who I'm being, right, who am I? My goal is to love on everybody. My my purpose is to love on everybody. And so when I focus on who I'm being and who I am, who I believe I'm meant to be, then when the action happens, when the doing happens, it's in alignment with who I'm being.

00:53:27:10 - 00:53:53:10
Speaker 2
And then you have this massive on the other end. Do you have that that really impactful, meaningful connection with somebody? Because both people are being authentic. Most people are being who they are. There's nothing I could find out about STK, nothing that wouldn't change how I feel about as all oh, there's nothing. All right. Good.

00:53:53:12 - 00:53:54:18
Speaker 1
All right.

00:53:54:20 - 00:54:17:19
Speaker 2
Well, there's this movement because I know who you're being, right, I know, and so if you do something or you've done something in the past, somebody would raise an eyebrow about, I'm like, great, you know what? We all screw up. We all do things that are questionable to what? Right? Right. So yeah, but if I love you and care about you, then what I'm loving is who you're being.

00:54:17:21 - 00:54:18:10
Speaker 1
Yes.

00:54:18:10 - 00:54:24:22
Speaker 2
As an essence, right? Are you going to do weird? Yes. But the essence of you.

00:54:24:23 - 00:54:47:03
Speaker 1
Well, someday you'll hear that talk where I go through the list of all of my, bad decisions and negative things that have happened. And it's all like in one, one on long paragraph. And usually when I get about halfway through, people are like, Holy crap, she's not done yet. And, you know.

00:54:47:05 - 00:54:49:04
Speaker 2
It goes I with no.

00:54:49:06 - 00:54:51:22
Speaker 1
Yeah. You know what I mean. Yeah. Yeah.

00:54:52:00 - 00:54:59:06
Speaker 2
It's it. Okay. So there's a lot on it. Yeah, there's a lot on my list. There's a lot's on their list. Like yeah, we're human.

00:54:59:11 - 00:55:30:16
Speaker 1
Yes. But it's the transparency of talking about it. Yeah. Being real about it. And growing from it that really makes a difference. And listen, we got to wrap up because we could just go on for like another couple hours with this. so thank you so much for being on you on Unlock Your Way and giving us a little peek into how you've unlocked your way and how can our listeners get in touch with you?

00:55:30:18 - 00:55:56:23
Speaker 2
there's a bunch of ways. If you put, the long bearded guy into any social media platform. Yeah. Right. Yeah. or Gordon D Melville. You put that into any platform, you'll come up with me everywhere. Jewil G will, g will, that's an acronym for gender and which is just in my company but gender and empowerment with intention life coaching.

00:55:56:23 - 00:56:01:06
Speaker 2
So Jewil Jewil dot coaching at gmail.com.

00:56:01:08 - 00:56:23:07
Speaker 1
Perfect. All right. All Gordon's contact information will be in all the comments of this live stream very shortly. And please look for Gordon's episode, live again in about two weeks on all Ly and his social media platforms. Thank you again, Gordon, for being here today.

00:56:23:09 - 00:56:25:13
Speaker 2
Thank you so much for the opportunity. It's an honor.

00:56:25:15 - 00:56:26:16
Speaker 1
You're welcome.

00:56:26:16 - 00:56:54:08
Speaker 1
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Speaker 1
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